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Jonny Craig is front and center on his solo debut

Jonny Craig is a name many of you might be familiar with. The now Lexington, Ky.-based singer is currently frontman for Rise Records’ indie core sextet Emarosa. However, now that he has a bit of down time from his regular gig, he’s decided to start from scratch, so to speak, with a brand new project—his first ever solo album, A Dream Is a Question You Don’t Know How to Answer.

Local music fans may also know Craig for more infamous reasons. He also served as co-vocalist for local groove-heavy screamo heroes Dance Gavin Dance—a group that Craig left on bad terms. In our 2008 interview with the band, Dance Gavin Dance’s then co-vocalist Jon Mess (also no longer in the group) said of Craig, “We just couldn’t get along with him at all. No one in the band liked being around him.”

That was some time ago, however, and both parties have moved on. In fact, Craig and Emarosa even toured with Dance Gavin Dance earlier this year. The “Squash the Beef Tour” just wrapped up last month on Oct. 19 in Omaha, Neb. Craig wasn’t too forthcoming about details but he did say the experience was a positive one.

“It was good,” Craig said through spotty cell phone reception from Dallas, Texas. “We’re all good to hang out again, and that’s about it. It wasn’t awkward.”

Despite the messiness of his break up with Dance Gavin Dance, Craig also said that he wasn’t surprised to tour with them again—albeit as part of a different band.

“Nobody holds grudges in the industry that we have,” he said. “You can’t just hate somebody forever.”

With the past behind him, Craig is on the road now with the equally talented Tides of Man serving as his backing band. These are just his first string of dates as a solo artist; however, Craig and company have gotten off to quite a start. Craig played his first solo show in support of Northern California punk legends AFI.

“It sounded good, but everyone was really nervous because we’d only practiced once,” he confided.

Despite these auspicious beginnings, Craig said he is looking forward to building his new endeavor from the ground up.

“It’s a little harder to do a solo band, because you have to start over, so I’m not going to be drawing 200 or 300 kids like Emarosa or Dance Gavin Dance would, because no one’s going to hear about the show,” Craig said. “But it’s still fun to go back and do shows like you were doing when you first started playing.”

Submerge spoke with Craig before sound check for his Nov. 23 show at The Door in Dallas.

Has having to start over with a new project reignited your passion for the music—having to rebuild a fan base with your own music?
In a way, it kind of sucks trying to go back and build a fan base, but then again, there’s not so much pressure. Like, “Oh, I’ve really got to nail this one, because everyone’s watching.” It kind of gives me a chance to go back and breathe a little bit and not be so worried about everyone’s opinions. Only I’m the one that matters. The backing band, if I mess up, they don’t care. Instead of having six opinions, you only get one. It makes it a lot easier for someone who fronts a band. It’s like, “There’s only one person writing this stuff; it’s you. So just relax, have a good time.” All you have to do is make sure your band is in place, and you go with it.

From what I’ve heard of the album, there seems to be a lot of different styles from song to song. Were you looking to branch out and try different things?
Like I said, we wrote skeletons to the songs, and then I sang over them. I just sang what I heard on the tracks. And then we were like, “This song’s a little funky, let’s put some weird guitar behind it or piano.” That’s how it really got decided. It was just me singing what I heard, and then it went from there. After we had the skeletons and the melodies down, then we did all the real guitar work and all the stuff that made the album—like the fillers.

So it sounds like a lot of it came together in the studio then”¦
Yeah.

Is that a lot different from how you’ve worked with Emarosa and Dance Gavin Dance in the past?
No, man. I just really like to go off the head when I record. I don’t like to over think melodies, over write things. I just like to go in and bust shit out, and think about it on the spot. If I don’t like it, I’ll start all over and find something new. I like to be 100 percent—I wouldn’t say improv—but not so organized. I like to relax and think to myself, “Hey, I want to go in here and do whatever I hear, because I’m going to trust myself. Instead of being like, “Oh, this needs to be catchier,” you know?

Before you mentioned that with this project, you don’t have to consider other opinions, just your own. Did that give you more leeway to explore the kind of stuff you were hoping to, like maybe stuff you weren’t able to do before with your music?
That’s the best thing about it. I didn’t go in writing anything. I didn’t go in expecting it to be, oh, like, “Let’s write an acoustic album,” or, “Let’s write a pop-y hip-hop album.” I just wanted to get in there and see what we could come up with. It was all about whatever came to my head. I hate people who over think everything and are so critical about what they play and how it sounds. I want to have fun singing. I just wanted to make an entire album just like that and show people that it can be done without stressing, and without really having much of a care except that you love music.

I watched the video for “I Still Feel Her, Part III” while getting ready for this interview. Was that a concept you came up with yourself or was it a director’s idea?
That was my idea.

Is it pretty true to the lyrics?
No, it has nothing to do with the lyrics. It’s a private meaning for me, and I’m not going to give it away.

It was pretty racy in the beginning with the two women making out half naked on the bed. Have you caught any flack for that?
No, you know, it’s whatever. Controversy is my middle name.

It doesn’t seem like something you shy away from.
Yeah, you know. I like to have fun. I like to do what I want, and I don’t care what anyone else does”¦ I just think a lot of people put up a front. Obviously, people aren’t as perfect as they portray. Like, they want to be in this band, and they want to be responsible and be role models for kids and stuff. I make music for myself, and I shouldn’t have to hide who I really am, because I make music to keep myself alive. I’m sorry that I might not be the best role model for someone’s child, or I might not be the best person for someone to look up to, but I want to be myself. If people say, “He drinks too much, or he does this or that.” I’m not going to hide who I am just so I can be bigger”¦ It’s just not who I am.

Writing music, I’m sure, you put a lot of yourself into that also”¦
The funny thing is, I never hid behind anything. And if you can’t grasp who I am or what I’m about, then that’s your problem. I guess that video—without giving too much away—is just me being like, this isn’t something I care about, people saying I drink too much or party too much”¦ I’m not going to get into it. It is what it is.

Jonny Craig will played The Boardwalk in Orangevale on Dec. 1, 2009 with Tides of Man and Sleeping With Sirens.

All the Pieces Fit

Tides of Man are ready to spread their music to the masses

Sometimes the best things in life happen spontaneously. Two strangers bump into each other and end up falling in love; a lunch break spent in a new café opens up an unexpected career opportunity; a stray dog or cat wanders into your yard, and two years later you’re inseparable. The things we don’t plan for end up being the most meaningful. Such is the case for Tampa, Fla. based progressive rock band Tides of Man. In December 2007 the talented young group of musicians—Tilian Pearson (vocals, guitar), Spencer Gill (guitar), Adam A. Sene (guitar), Alan Jaye (bass) and Josh Gould (drums)—convened on a whim when Jaye booked a show before the band even had any material together.

“He decided to randomly book a reunion show,” Pearson recently shared with Submerge, referencing an old group that some of the members had played in prior to Tides of Man. “We just wrote new material and played adapted versions of material from their previous band.” Three of the songs from their recent full-length debut, Empire Theory (out now on Rise Records), were actually written during that 10-day dash to prepare for the first show. If it wasn’t for the spontaneous last-minute decision to play that show, Pearson pointed out, the special chemistry that exists amongst the group might not have been discovered so easily.

“I knew it immediately,” Gill said of the band’s unique chemistry. “When Tilian first came in to play with us he just started singing the lyrics, I don’t even remember which song it was, but I was like blown away.” The rest of the members agreed that they knew they were onto something “special” as soon as Pearson stepped into the picture. The young vocalist has a rare talent indeed, and has frequently been compared by fans and critics alike to such frontmen as Anthony Green of Circa Survive, Claudio Sanchez of Coheed and Cambria and Cedric Bixler-Zavala of The Mars Volta, three of the most notable voices in the genre. The comparisons to such great bands are welcomed by the members of Tides of Man. “I take it as a compliment no matter who the band is, even if it’s a band I don’t personally listen to,” said Sene.

“Different people who come from different parts of the world who grew up in different environments will make their own comparisons,” Pearson elaborated humbly. “A lot of the times the comparisons made are above where I think our music is.”

The truth is such comparisons are well deserved. Empire Theory mixes all the ingredients of a buzz-worthy indie release into a delicious concoction of dynamic, well-formulated songs with smart, meaningful lyrics. Parts of “Not My Love” and the title-track clearly resemble the highly rocking, raw, early work of Coheed and Cambria (Second Stage Turbine Blade); “Western Scene” boasts impressive soaring vocals similar to those found on any Circa Survive record (especially Juturna); and “Rescue” has the tripped-out, almost ugly (but in a good way) parts that The Mars Volta have made such an integral facet of their sound.

The album’s title is inspired by a quote from French philosopher Charles de Montesquieu that goes, “An Empire founded by war has to maintain itself by war.” And according to the group, Empire Theory is a concept record (much like many of the aforementioned bands’ albums), about forgiveness and uncompromising love. “I came up with the story line pretty much right after I saw the movie American History X,” said Sene.

“Just basically the whole, ‘tragedy and chance to forgive’ kind of idea inspired it,” Pearson interjected.

The band enlisted producer Matt Malpass (who has worked with such artists as Copeland, Relient K, Manchester Orchestra and Lydia) to man the knobs at his home studio in Atlanta, Ga. Pearson said that as soon as he heard Illuminate, the Lydia record that Malpass produced, he knew they had to record with him. They spent a total of four weeks recording with Malpass and made it clear they would have loved to have spent even more time there. “It was an awesome house,” said Sene. “It had a very retro look to it. It was a cool place to be while making a record.” Pearson chimed in with, “Yeah, we felt like badasses in there.” That confidence clearly shines through on Empire Theory, where Tides of Man holds nothing back on an impressive debut.

Let’s review, shall we? Incredible melodies (without the assistance of auto-tune) from a talented vocalist? Check. Smart, well thought-out lyrics? Check. Solid, captivating instrumentals? Check. Deep, profound concept record? Check. Literally all of the pieces are in place for a successful career. And with a credible business team already built around them including legit management, label backing and booking agents, Tides of Man are ready to share their music with the world. “I would say the long-term goal is to get as big as possible,” Sene joked. Then, laughing, “I might as well just say it, ‘to be the biggest band ever!’ How realistic that is, I don’t know, but it’s definitely worth a shot. Set it as your goal and shoot for the stars.”

Tides of Man is currently out on the “Squash the Beef Tour” with Emarosa and Sacramento’s own Dance Gavin Dance. The tour, which also includes the bands Of Mice and Men and Of Machines, will hit the Boardwalk in Orangevale on Saturday, Sept. 26. The band played Sacramento for their first time this summer alongside A Static Lullaby and Gould remembers it fondly. “We had a group of five dudes who traveled for like three hours to go to that first show in Sacramento,” he said. “They said they were from somewhere on the outside of San Francisco. We didn’t know anyone out there even knew who we were.”

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